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Rusty
That’s ‘tulpish’ or raw thought. I hate the term tulpish because firstly it sounds stupid and secondly you don’t need a tulpa to do that.
Huh?! You don't need a tulpa to do that?!
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 6/17/2023 3:53 PM
no
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Wha...
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 6/17/2023 3:54 PM
i tend to think in some uncomplete sentence at times and dont bother finishing since i know what im already thinking
3:54 PM
im sure everyone does that sometimes
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I do it constantly in just normal day to day life when I’m not even trying to speak to anyone else in my system and I did it before learning about tulpamancy. I have a feeling most people do and just don’t really think about it or notice it.
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I see....
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Like, I can’t imagine that every single action you do you have an active thought process saying you want to do that thing
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The term tulpish exists because we needed a way to refer to when tulpas (and hosts, to their tulpas) communicate in pure thought-feeling rather than direct imagined vocal sentences
3:56 PM
But, it really is just thought
3:56 PM
It's in a different context when you're a singlet thinking to yourself, but it's still the same thing, technically
3:57 PM
Anyways, aiming for audible vocality is a good goal, and helps conversation be more clear and fulfilling in my opinion
3:57 PM
But "tulpish"/thought-feeling communication is still helpful
3:57 PM
Technically, when talking audibly, both are going on at the same time
3:58 PM
So regardless of the exact words you or your tulpa use, they should be able to get your exact intent and context
3:58 PM
But yeah, words are nicer
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Words are better but that’s not what you are going to get starting out and other forms of communication should not be ignored or discouraged
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Yeah, clear vocal sentences are a goal, not the only thing you should be expecting/accepting
4:00 PM
Tulpas usually necessarily start out as not sounding different from your own thoughts
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Holding the intent for certain ones to be your tulpa and not you, over time they should start to gain a different context feeling
4:01 PM
Eventually they might gain a separate voice from yours, but even without, the context-feeling to their thoughts becomes unique enough that it isn't mistakable for your own
4:01 PM
And then the final goal would be both that and clear vocal sentences in their own unique voice
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But, as long as communication is clear and consistent, it doesn't really matter how
4:01 PM
Whatever your preference is
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Creating a different feeling or ‘presence’ or ‘vibe’ or whatever you what to call it is probably more important than vocality but no one ever talks about that.
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I believe people with hardcore aphantasia can't even achieve "audible" vocality in the first place, so their end result would just be clear "tulpish"
4:02 PM
Which works perfectly fine
4:02 PM
(and it's not like they know what thought that doesn't sound like that is like anyways, so they're not "missing out")
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Creating a different feeling or ‘presence’ or ‘vibe’ or whatever you what to call it is probably more important than vocality but no one ever talks about that.
@Rusty - jump well… i do talk about it all the time
4:04 PM
that’s what the pendulum method is for
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I don’t have aphantasia at all and still use it to speak to others in my system all the time. It’s just easier and faster.
4:05 PM
But it has caused an annoying habit of people speaking over others because they already know what they are going to say and don’t wait for them to actually say the words like they want to
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@Zehel X403 do you know what tulpa you would like to have?
4:06 PM
or are you going to let them be whoever they want?
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It’s okay to have a mix of those
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yes
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Leiko
@Zehel X403 do you know what tulpa you would like to have?
Well... I began with giving my tulpa name(Kirara) and form (a black wolf, bc I thought that would be easier to visualise although I keep saying that she can change her form if she wants to) and basic personality (extrovert, totally opposite of mine)
4:37 PM
I just began with it and it's totally fine if she wants to change anything
4:38 PM
And sorry for the delay it's night time here
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Emily Stassia BOT 6/17/2023 4:39 PM
:D
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When making a personality so different from you’re own you should expect them to deviate and and develop traits similar to you, especially when they start fronting. They can still be very different from you but as time goes on similarities are unavoidable
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That's totally fine with me
4:43 PM
If she deviates
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Emily Stassia BOT 6/17/2023 4:44 PM
Hi Kirara, will you deviate? smile3
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Uh..... I'm not sure whether my tulpa is sentient yet or not
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Emily Stassia
Hi Kirara, will you deviate? smile3
But I think I got a reply of maybe (not sure if it was me or her)
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Again, telling your brain "This was my tulpa" and when necessary "This was not my tulpa" is how your brain learns to create a tulpa in the first place
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Emily Stassia BOT 6/17/2023 4:48 PM
Maybe she is, but shy
4:48 PM
ehehe
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Being wishy-washy and unsure is a good way to slow down progress
4:48 PM
Early in development tulpas often have less of a centralized sense of self and they will say things occasionally that didn't actually have much thought behind them, yes
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Alright, then I will think that it was my tulpa
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But just understand that and keep moving forward freely
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Error 🧶 BOT 6/17/2023 4:49 PM
doesnt matter. You assume they are sentient even if they aren’t. Constantly thinking ‘oh they aren’t sentient yet’ is just going to fuck them over when they start to develop and you keep acting like they aren’t sentient
4:50 PM
everything is just pretending. Gaslight yourself into having a tulpa 🤷‍♂️
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Early things said by tulpas aren't usually very serious or committal, so as long as you understand that they're still developing and not making clear and decisive decisions every time they say something yet, there's no need to worry about their vocality
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Got it Thanks
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Emily Stassia BOT 6/17/2023 4:54 PM
:D
4:56 PM
Psstt Kirara, punch your hostie if they keep thinking you are not sentient kappa
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XD
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Error 🧶 BOT 6/17/2023 4:57 PM
you joke, but I do that
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regularly
4:59 PM
you’d think after this long they’d stop thinking like that
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A long kiss goodnight 6/17/2023 5:00 PM
Huh, I didn't know that
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That's certainly unexpected
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Error 🧶 BOT 6/17/2023 5:02 PM
Rusty can find a way to be stressed and worried about literally anything and everything
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Emily Stassia BOT 6/17/2023 5:02 PM
: o
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 6/17/2023 5:03 PM
Hey that's my job
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Error 🧶
Rusty can find a way to be stressed and worried about literally anything and everything
A long kiss goodnight 6/17/2023 5:03 PM
I see
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Error 🧶 BOT 6/17/2023 5:06 PM
Hey that's my job
@Gray | Shadow System (@A long kiss goodnight) - jump the host’s job is to be annoying and worry about shit that doesn’t matter. I don’t make the rules 🤷‍♂️
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 6/17/2023 5:06 PM
That’s true lol
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Emily Stassia BOT 6/17/2023 5:07 PM
🤭
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 6/17/2023 6:36 PM
that sounds familiar lookingdownsmile
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Reply to: > Hey that's my job @Gray | Shadow System (@A long kiss goodnight) - jump the …
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 5:21 PM
oh ! are there any sort of like ,,, toxic thoughts that might come up or i need to be aware of when creating my tulpa ? like one that would hinder their development ig
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/21/2023 5:25 PM
just go as you feel, if you have any thoughts that are slowing down your progress or make you feel uncomfortable let us know. if we told you potential thoughts like that, there is a risk that we would just plant it in your brain
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Unique Username 6/21/2023 5:28 PM
I would not worry about it. Trust that they will be able to tell the difference between what you intend, and something unintentional. It's really quite easy.
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 5:34 PM
SkyNod mm good points , thank u guys :0
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Celestial Horror 6/22/2023 2:16 PM
should i/am i allowed to make a tupper for my tulpa before theyre sentient ?
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CoppermineKittygirl 6/22/2023 2:18 PM
yeah, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that
2:19 PM
if you should is up to you, but I don't think it would hurt anything
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Celestial Horror 6/22/2023 2:20 PM
nodsnods ok im always anxious about doing stuff "correctly" so theres prolly gonna be a lot of stupid questions like this from me sorry <//3
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CoppermineKittygirl 6/22/2023 2:21 PM
thats alright, I used to be very much the same way so I get it
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Celestial Horror 6/22/2023 2:22 PM
🤝
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 6/22/2023 2:37 PM
theres no correct or wrong way to do things
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/22/2023 2:37 PM
should i/am i allowed to make a tupper for my tulpa before theyre sentient ?
@Celestial Horror - jump i allow it, but only for one! For anorher one uou will need another permission
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Celestial Horror 6/22/2023 2:53 PM
ahh dang ! foiled my plans wobblypensive
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A long kiss goodnight 6/22/2023 3:50 PM
Proxying for your tulpa is a good way to realize how much sentience they actually have
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Bili || She/her BOT 6/22/2023 4:19 PM
How do you judge sentience?
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Also how do you know when a tulpa is fronting? I feel as though I am the predominant thinker, looking at the world with mostly fresh eyes, yet nothing seems new if that makes sense
4:19 PM
I assume it is from Moss' experience?
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 6/22/2023 4:20 PM
if you're the main thinker you're fronting
4:21 PM
or switched, or whatever
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/22/2023 4:23 PM
do you guys feel the source of thoughts spatially, as in in your mind? that's how i know
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Ethereal/Bili || She/Her BOT 6/22/2023 4:24 PM
Hm then I must be fronting.
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It feels as though Moss is ... here, yes, but not quite next to me.
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It feels like he's sitting on a couch in the same room.
4:24 PM
Around, yet not with me
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 6/22/2023 4:25 PM
yeah thats how it usually goes
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/22/2023 4:25 PM
yeah
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